Another 45 year old asshole having a mid life crisis. I understand him wanting a younger guy due to his rapidly aging body, but why the hate on Asians and Prudes? Dude if you want huge dick and you want it bareback just fucking say so!
The basketball is supposed to indicate that he is “sporty”, therefore he must be masculine. LOL
All he forgot was the A&F polo with the popped collar and/or pooka shell necklace to indicate that he considers himself a “straight-acting jock”. I can’t imagine how many people who must have looked at his picture and snickered silently to themselves. 35…. yeah and I have a 12″ dick.
having followed this great site for a while now but what saddens me is: Are Asians really so irksome to these people? I said this because I find most of the racist profiles here are directed at Asians and many repeatedly said so on their descriptions. I live in Asia and I must say once or twice I have come across profiles that said “Asian for Asian” or “Asians only”….
Rice- I think its because Asians tend to be relentless and not take a hint. So many of my friends who r uber pc will begrudgingly admit that the most harassing people r asians. If they’ll say that then it makes sense that ur average person will get more proactive to discourage them.
relentless? bitch please. I’ve seen blacks and whites do the same shit.
The point u think all of asians are relents because they are the minorities. Of course you SEE it more apparent. But if you take the percentage of majority ( whites ) – the amount would be the same.
Race has no correlation with this. I bet you suck at math too,.
Tripes I don’t suck at math and you make my point for me. If asians are a minority then I should be getting less as a gross number of them harassing me. The gross number of Asians who do it is even higher than the majority group, whites. Who’s the one the sucks at math here (not to mention logic and grammar)? And the humorless militance of people who cry racism because guys on a hookup site don’t want to fuck them, doesn’t help your case. Drop the hyperbole and ultrasensitivity. You cheapen instances of REAL racism.
And dont put words in my mouth. I didnt say “all asians” and didnt say its was only asians. Im one of those racist, sexist, ageist gay guys that treats and genders races, ages equally except when it comes to sex. Then I turn into a big ole bigot who only likes northern european looking guys. Years ago, when I was first making a profile on a different site I asked my friend, “Should I say I’m only into white guys just to save nonwhites the trouble?” He said, “no. I won’t come up enough to be an issue” well he was mostly right. With blacks, latins, middle eastern, even other white guys if I wasn’t interested they took a hint. There were a few exceptions but the overwhelming majority of harassing, cant-take-a-hint guys were asian. It didn’t “seem” like that. That’s what happened. Now on grndr, I just describe myself and as soon as I see a type I don’t like I block them. In my neighborhood, no asians bother me because they’re all blocked now but as soon as I leave, I get bombarded. So I understand why guys say “no asians”.
Andy, i dont know where you live, but not ALL Asians are socially maladjusted and inept. To assume that they ALL are would in fact be quite racist. What’s wrong with just ignoring their incoming messages?
People (of all ethnicities) are quite socially literate and mellow where I am. I would encourage you to maybe do some travelling and not paint everyone with the same brush…
Derek, I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. I made it clear I didn’t mean ALL asians and I also explained my experience so I made no assumptions. I live in NYC and have traveled the world. I do just ignore the incoming messages but it can be tedious so I understand why people say what races they’re not into. Why would someone want to waste their time pursuing someone not into them? Why not just say “no ____”?
Andy said: “Drop the hyperbole and ultrasensitivity. You cheapen instances of REAL racism.”
Andy, I suppose by this statement, you consider yourself an expert on racism? How would you define and describe racism?
I wouldn’t assume to know everything about racism, so I guess I’ll gather some info from the net…
Definition of racism:
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
1. (Sociology) the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. (Sociology) abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism
Based on the definitions given above, it could be possible then some races are rejected because they are seen as inferior to another race? For example, Asians are considered less attractive than Caucasians. Isn’t lack of attractiveness an indication of inferiority? Thus, aren’t Causcasian and Caucasian looks considered more superior then?
How about another definition of racism according to All Together Now, an Australian NGO focusing on racism and racial discrimination in Australia.
And according to them, racism is “a combination of attitudes, beliefs and behaviours, including:”
– believing your race is superior to another race;
– offensive or aggressive behaviour towards somebody because of their race;
– believing some groups do not fit in Australia;
– actively avoiding or excluding people from a specific cultural background because you believe they don’t belong; or
– believing everyone should behave according to certain values which are called ‘national’ but are not.
And racial discrimination is “an extension of racist thoughts or feelings. It is discrimination (i.e. a behaviour or practice) based on a person’s skin colour, cultural heritage or nationality which stops the victim from participating fully in public life. It can take many forms, including exclusion from employment, educational or housing opportunities.”
Again I’m wondering, based upon these definitions can we use and apply them to what we have seen on Grindr and from the discussions/arguments on this site?
As for your comments on Asians – I know you said you made it clear that you didn’t mean ALL Asians but I’m wondering seeing how Asia is a large continent, perhaps we should break it down according to specific ethnicities (I will exclude Central Asia and South Asia because I know to most Westerners, Asians means those yellow or light brown people, right?)
Getting my info from Wikipedia, East Asians and South East Asians Chinese/Koreans/Japanese/Mongolians and Cambodians/Laotians/Burmese/Thai/Vietnamese/Filipino/Malays/Indonesians/Bruneians/East Timorese.
So which of these Asians are the ones who keep harassing the oh-so attractive and undeniably superior gened Caucasians?
Because lumping all Asians into one lump is a tad offensive no? I mean what if it’s the Chinese who are the ones shamelessly texting hot white dudes but the Mongolians aren’t into pasty white dudes at all and yet they get painted by the same ‘yellow skinned slanted eyed bottoms mad crazy for white meat not taking no for an answer’ brush.
I mean you guys probably can’t tell who’s Korean or who’s Cambodian or who’s Thai or who’s Indonesian because all yellow and brown people all look alike anyway right? But somehow I think they would be able to tell each other apart. So, I doubt they appreciate being categorized and discriminated as the same.
Or is it okay to say ‘No Asians’ and to offend and discriminate against several ethnic groups because it’s so tedious having to block or ignore all these unwanted incoming messages?
Azulmelb, thx u just reiterated my point with irrelavant strawman argument. U lept to the assumption that not being attracted a race is saying that race is inferior. What bullshit. By that logic, being a gay man makes u sexist. And sorry to burst ur bubble but despite Asia being so large, the whole continent is pretty well represented here in NYC and their pestering ways. Although if I did a count I think it would be mostly Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai in that order. That’s not to say there aren’t Indonesian, Filipinos etc that do it. I just don’t think there are as many here.
And by saying, “And sorry to burst ur bubble but despite Asia being so large, the whole continent is pretty well represented here in NYC and their pestering ways.”
Are you now saying this ‘pestering ways’ is an inherent characteristic to Asians?
Let’s refer back to the definition of racism, shall we?
1. (Sociology) the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. (Sociology) abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism
Funny…the order of my comments got mixed up BUT I do hope you will answer to the question on what would be your reason(s) for not finding Asians and other non-whites as attractive as Caucasians.
Explain in a way that would prove that you do not think that their ethnicity, physicality or cultural characteristics are not inferior to Caucasians…
And I hope you’ll be basing these reasons with facts and not stereotypical beliefs of these races. Thanks Andy.
Oops a typo there: Explain in a way that would disprove that you do not think that their ethnicity, physicality or cultural characteristics are not inferior to Caucasians…
Its quite as simple and obvious as the attraction to women or lack thereof isn’t indicative of finding women inferior. Who you’re attracted too could even be someone u think of as inferior. Thats actually often the case in straight relationships. You’re asking me to prove a negative which if ur familiar with debate at all, is practically impossible to do. U want me to prove its NOT racist when u haven’t even given me anything about sexual attraction to rebut. All I can say is attraction is a totallydifferent animal from feeling racially superior. Why don’t u explain to me why not being attracted to women isn’t sexist but only being atracted to certain races is racist?
And yeah, i’ll grant u that the “pestering” remark can be read as racist. What i meant was that of the pestering Asians, all countries seem to be represented. So ur claim that I was being too general when I should have specified national origin, isn’t valid. And again, what I’m saying is that of the “pesterers” the vast majority r asian. That’s my experience and u can’t tell me its not. But that’s very different from saying all asians are “pesterers”. Its like saying all milk is white doesn’t mean all white things are milk.
Urm…sorry to burst your bubble but I do find women attractive. So, I guess I won’t have to explain how homosexuality works.
So back to you Andy – what is it about non-whites that makes them not attractive as Caucasians?
I find that most racists or guys with racist tendencies avoid answering this question because I think there aren’t ways to describe their racial preferences in a non racist way.
But if you are able to say that your non sexual attraction to non-whites is not racist in nature, then please do so. Thanks again Andy.
Sure, i like lighter skin with a peaches and cream or pinkish tone, i like body hair, i like light eyes and usually lighter hair. Even if the hair is dark i like a little wave in it. I like pink or beige penises that are 6″+. I like the way white guys smell as opposed to other races. I like straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils. … i mean i could do this all day. Ive told all my nonwhite friends this. No one has a problem with it. And ur dancing arounf the women/sexist question. What if grindr was open to all sexualities. Is it sexist to say “no women”?
“Sure, i like lighter skin with a peaches and cream or pinkish tone” – only Caucasians have light skin? What about fair Middle Easterners and Latinos? What about Afghans specifically from the Pashtun ethnic group?
“i like body hair” – only Caucasians are hairy? Indians are hairy. Middle Easterners, definitely. Asians are probably the least hairiest, most not hairy at all but there are hairy Asians…
“i like light eyes and usually lighter hair. Even if the hair is dark i like a little wave in it” – only Caucasians have light eyes and light/wavy hair? Again I would point out to Middle Easterners like some Lebanese men…
“I like pink or beige penises that are 6″+” – okay Caucasians probably have pink penises than other racial groups but beige penises that 6 inches and more – you can’t say only Caucasians have this. And do you honestly believe ALL Asians have penises less than 6″? Especially when the average size for penises worldwide is around 5″-6″? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size http://www.thepenismuseum.com/penis_guide.php
“I like the way white guys smell as opposed to other races” – have you slept with men of other races to make this judgment?
“I like straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils” – Again, only Caucasian men have straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils? You have seen some Northern Indians (from Punjab), Afghan (Pasthuns) and Middle Easterners.
And what about mixed race? How would you rate the attractiveness of a half white, half Asian man?
Do you deny that men of other races are possible of possessing these physical traits that you described?
Actually after i wrote “i could do this all day” it just shows how excluding or specifying races that include a long list of characteristics is just pragmatic. Especially for sonething as superficial as a gay hook up site. And btw, i know the trap ur trying to set for me. I have said from the start i dont write a preference in my profile even tho i have one. U want to catch me discriminating for something besides a physical characteristic. Heres an example of me NOT doing that. Ive hooked up with guys listing Middle Eastern as their race. I dont typically go for Middle Eastern guys but Israelis can be blond/blue and those type i find attractive. I also dated someone who was Mexican but had brown hair and green eyes. So its not culture or ethnicity that excludes guys for me but assuming arguendo it was, we still have to let people make choices in sex and romance on any criteria they want.
As for the women and sexist issue – let’s look into the definition sexist/sexism:
sexism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
sexist
(noun) sexist – a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women
(adj) sexist – discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men’s attitude toward women)
Now, the definition of homosexuality…
homosexual
noun
(Psychology) a person who is sexually attracted to members of the same sex
adj
1. (Psychology) of or relating to homosexuals or homosexuality
2. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Biology) of or relating to the same sex
So, sexism is an act of discrimination towards women. A negative attitude or treatment of women. But a homosexual saying no to a woman is about his sexuality – he is not attracted to women.
And the definition of homosexuality is sexual attraction to the same sex. A non-white man is the same sex as a white man, so what is the reason behind the non sexual attraction if it is not based upon gender?
If the reason behind the non sexual attraction to a person of the same sex is solely the person’s race, how is that not racial discrimination?
Ok, i’ve to drop the stuffy debate style for a second. R U FUCKING KIDDING ME!!?? U just answered ur own question in that last comment! Its related to SEXUALITY!!! Where do you draw the line? Is every fit 18 yo expected to give an equal opportunity to every person with a penis? Even if its a 80 yo that weighs 500 lbs? If not why not? Does bigotry in the form of agism or lookism not matter as much as racism? OR IS IT that we dont apply the same standards of bigotry when its regarding sexuality?!?!? How do u not understand this? Do u honestly believe that in order to not be racist u have to be attracted to all races equally as long as theyre the right gender? Please tell me ur under 25. These r the views of someone who thinks theoretically and has little real world rxperince. Is the straight man who asks for an asian masseuse racist? What about the women who only date black men? Im losing patience with this riduculous argument.
I’ve actually replied to the post you made at 5:20pm which points out that the physical characteristics you described could be attributed to men of other races apart from Caucasians. But for some reason it is still awaiting moderation. I have no idea why…
But the point I hope you’ll get that basing physical attraction upon race is what’s ridiculous because men of any race could look like the Caucasian men you desire because there are many exceptions to the rule.
There could be a muscled Japanese guy with a 9″ dick. There could be a hot blonde Lebanese. There could be a fair hairy Punjabi guy.
And yes, I am over 25 and I have been with guys of various races and ethnicities, so I know that hot can come in any shape and shade.
You’re losing patience, my friend because you cannot convince me that racial preference is not racist.
The thing is Andy – this practice of writing No Asians or any other form of discrimination is telling of the society that we’re becoming. People being so self absorbed and insensitive that they don’t care about offending an entire group of people because it’s an inconvenience to be thoughtful and kind.
And rather than trying to understand why such things are offensive, people just criticize and insult each other just to justify their beliefs no matter how wrong it may be. At no point are people willing to compromise and try to empathize with the plight of the other.
I am trying to find out people are like that. I’ve come across one blog and it may shed some light I’m not sure but I’ll be posting it below and I hope you (and others like you) will take the time to read it…
(I’ve been thinking about this for some time now, and recent events brought it to the forefront. I just had to get it out there, even if I make a fool of myself in the process.
In a way, I find it embarassing that I’m just now learning that I have The Blinders of Privilege™. I mean… I’m 32 years old, for Pete’s Sake. You would think that I would have learned it by now, especially considering that for all of my adult life, I have had a more diverse group of friends than I did growing up. But nope… The Blinders of Privilege™ made sure I didn’t see what was right in front of my face.
Certain groups of people are made to feel more entitled than others, and in such a way that they feel they’ve earned that right. It happens every day, and most of those people involved don’t see that there’s a problem. Sometimes even the ones to whom we feel superior feel that they deserve the treatment they get.
In White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, Peggy McIntosh describes it like this:
“I have come to see white privilege as an invisible package of unearned assets that I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was “meant” to remain oblivious. White privilege is like an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools , and blank checks.”
Now, obviously, Ms. McIntosh is speaking specifically about white privilege. But the fact is, we can take the word “white” out of there and replace it with any of the privileged groups: Rich, Men, Thin, “Normal” – and you end up with exactly the same result.
In her essay, she goes on to list 50 things that are an everyday occurrence to white people that openly shows their privilege. Things you might not even think of. However, in reading those things, I think I caught a glimpse of why I’ve always seen People of Color as being equal to me despite my white upbringing. Short story: I’m obsinate and wouldn’t let racist talk affect the way I thought of People of Color; and my adult life has been spent struggling financially, which, in turn, put me in contact with People of Color more often – and I learned a lot from them.
But there are some things on that list that I never even thought of, and surprised me.
– I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
– I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
– I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
– When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
– I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
– I can be pretty sure that my children’s teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others’ attitudes toward their race.
Those are just a few. But they illustrate my point: because I am white, I don’t have to think about these things. However, when they are pointed out to me, I can honestly understand why People of Color get so upset about this privilege we have. Because while I was too blinded to see it before, it’s right there in front of my face. But The Blinders of Privilege™ made it impossible for me to see before.
And learning more about my unearned White Privilege has made it so much clearer now as to why People of Color involved in the Fatosphere have said time and again “there is no real place for us.” Until we – as a society – learn to put away the White Privilege completely, there will always be an “us” and a “them.” It really saddens me to admit that, but it’s true.
I can only hope that I, under the power of The Blinders of Privilege™, haven’t made any person of Color feel unwanted. I don’t think I have, but I didn’t think I had any Privilege, either.
Oh. My. God. Thx for reinforcing the
‘Asians just dont get it’ stereotype and filling the comments with pseudo intellectual strawman arguments. If races don’t have defining physical characteristics then what is the basis of these vapid queens disinterest OR why the exclusive interest in a race other than their own? Do u think the no asians thing is a throwback to WWI anti-Japanese sentiment or something? Give me a break. They arent into the way they look. Pure and simple. And yes there are some exceptions to the way certain races look but Im sure an a hookup site guys are willing to risk overlooking some western looking asians if it means geyting the pestering ones off their back. And dont make this about white priviledge, PLENTY of guys aren’t into whites and ive seen plenty of “asian only”. You need to familiarize urself with strawman arguments because thats all uv given me.
And fyi, this isnt crucial to my argument but just because u have the audacity to insinuate I’m a product of white priveledge. I LIVE IN FUCKING NEW YORK CITY! It doesnt get more racially diverse. I worked for a Japanese company for 3 years wherei was the minority. I made a lot of good asian friends but also was ostracized and had to prove myself more than the asians (and just to be clear, I was singled out for being white not because I wasn’t japanese, non japanese asians didn’t have the issues that me and my latin coworker had). I also worked with a predominately black company and traveled with them. I would be the only white face among hunfreds of blacks staying in black parts of town. I was known as “that gay white boy” by many who couldn’t be bothered to learn my name. In fact I’ve lived in Harlem and Chinatown breifly. I don’t come from any financial priveledge. I applied for a minority scholarship at a black school because I couldn’t afford college. I’m still paying off student loans. So don’t sit in ur throne of judgement from Australia and act like u have ANY idea what my experience is.
Consistently, you have responded defensively, emotionally, sarcastically and with some dose of racial stereotyping. Are you a fan of Bill O’Reilly cuz you sure argue like him – you don’t listen to the argument or comments given, you attack without understanding and you respond with derision. Is that how you usually debate or try to resolve a conflict?
I’ve look at your other comments on the other posts – it seems you are very disrespectful, hateful and probably emotionally unstable person.
I’m not sure I would want to engage with someone who obviously does not care about the feelings of others. Your persistent denial of the harmful effects of people saying, ‘No Asians’ screams out that you lack EMPATHY.
You may think it’s trivial and harmless but it’s not – gay people lack space to feel free to be themselves and to feel accepted in a hetero world so spaces such as Grindr or other online sites can be a good addition to the small spaces for all queers.
But consider how it feels being a gay Asian or other minorities (overweight, old, trans, etc) and continually getting the message that they don’t belong in this space. Is this a healthy environment for your fellow queers?
No here is saying people can’t have their preference – you can say no without offending people. You can be racist or ageist or whatever but if people call you out on it – man up and ‘Yeah I am a racist’. Don’t bullshit us by saying otherwise. A bigot is a bigot.
Don’t keep bringing up the straw man argument because if anyone is doing it, it’s you. I have given you examples, I’ve given you definitions, I’ve responded to your questions and I’ve even given you direct links to those information.
You ARE the one who’s keep dismissing my arguments, not listening to the examples and definitions and not reading what I have posted here.
You’re making it clear that you do not wish nor care to understand nor empathize with the issue at hand.
Just because you haven’t heard of these terms or issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist – it just means you’re ignorant and uneducated. And it appears that you wish to remain so.
That is what the blinders of privilege is about – ignoring and denying the plight of marginalized people. If you have read that blog article, you would have understood that before ranting about your associations with people of color, not being privileged, blah blah blah.
I know NYC is racially and culturally diverse, I was there in the spring, stayed in Williamsburg, got on the L everyday – which makes it sadder that you’re such an insensitive and ignorant prick because you should know better.
Earlier you commented about knowing REAL racism but you just said that to dismiss the valid complaints people have posted here. You just keep trying to maintain the status quo and drown out other people’s voices with your incessant insults and bitching.
If you want to know more about racism, check out these links:
If you bother to check those links you’ll find the different definitions and types of discrimination and then try applying to the attitude and actions of the people on Grindr and this site.
In fact, I’ll list some out now…
Discrimination:
Behaviours or practices that result in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Direct discrimination:
Unequal treatment that results in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Indirect discrimination:
Equal treatment that results in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Interpersonal discrimination:
Interactions between people that result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across different groups
Systemic discrimination:
Also called institutional, organisational, societal or cultural discrimination. This occurs when requirements, conditions, practices, policies or processes result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across different groups
Internalised discrimination:
When an individual accepts attitudes, beliefs or ideologies about the superiority of other groups and/or the inferiority of their own group
Race-based discrimination:
Behaviours and practices that result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across groups in society based on race, ethnicity, culture or religion
That’s just a bit of the information given, so read up bitch.
Ooh I should add this – in VicHealth’s framework of reducing race-based discrimination, they listed out the key factors contributing to race-based discrimination on four levels – individual, organisational, community and societal.
Under individual, the factors listed are:
• Belief in racial hierarchy and racial separatism
• Belief that some groups do not fit into Australian society
• Fear, anxiety, discomfort, avoidance or intolerance of
diversity
• Denial that discrimination occurs and/or that it is serious
• Negative stereotypes and prejudices
• Failure to recognise own negative attitudes/behaviours and/or a belief that they are ‘normal’
• Poor conflict resolution skills
• Limited positive inter-group relationships and interaction
So if you don’t state a negative preference or a positive preference regarding race, but evaluate every guy based on whether you’re attracted to him or not, and just don’t end up being attracted to anyone who doesn’t look stereotypically white? Are you racist?
I’m bi and not out but I don’t cheat on partners or have unprotected anal ever so I don’t think I have to tell anyone. I’m very attracted to all races of women (I’m white) but as far as I know I’m really only into other white guys. I have gone on a few dates with Asian guys but I just wasn’t attracted enough to want to fuck them…
So am I racist, according to your obviously superior racism detection skills?
The “no Asians” demand is offensive and involved. It’s 2012 and pl still write such things? I recall the terribly offensive words I would see in newspaper ads for lesbians in the 80s & 90s.. “no bisexuals”. To a gay woman this seems reasonable, they don’t want to get hurt by someone they feel is indecisive about their orientation. They don’t wish to be left for a guy or hurt in the future, never mind the average lesbian relation is dead in 1-3 yes anyway. It seemed reasonable at that time, however, later when identifying myself as bisexual because I had to admit what I was, those Words “no bi’s” became THE MOST dismissive and ignorant words I’d ever read. So basically, it depends where you sit to see the bite such words can bring. These blinded ppl assumed their soulmate had to be just like them, gay…therefore quite possibly and probably they did miss out on the most passionate, memorable experience of their lives, out of fear. In the end, that’s what it all boils down to. Fear. A lot of people are simply stupid. I vividly recall women backing away from me because I looked “bisexual” or “straight” so that meant I’d hurt them. I befriended a woman once with openness and joy only to have the door slammed in my face. I asked for her number and she actually said out loud “are you kidding, no way, youse break my heart”. I remember feeling so hurt by such stupidities.
Yes, bi people should only be with other bi people, etc. When I realized that, as a bi man, I “dated” gay dudes only because they were available, not because I desired them, I truly came into my own, and found peace and true pleasure in my life. I came out as bi, dating only certain bi people who meet certaing sexuality, height, weight, interests, etc., criteria, and I haven’t looked back since. Please don’t waste your life on gay men. They, as a group, aren’t worth it.
I’m my area the Asians are prudes.
Closet cases, gay and planning on finding a wife and having a family.
And they repeat “R u kleeen?’ Again and again. Like my answers going to change?
And they’re bad for fake profiles too.
They want complete discretion but keep up with stolen photo profiles with same shitty English and the same probing questions.
They fuck me off. And I’m fucked off that I even say “They”.
He’s not a douche.
He’s out of your league.
Asian guys, as a group, must be really horrible on these apps, as they keep getting rejected by so many people. It can’t just be racism, which reminds me, since when do you white queens give a damn about people of color. When we’re mistreated in the real world, you’re nowhere to be found, except as the person guilty of the discrimination…
Disgusting guy. Looks old too
HAHA If that guys is 35, then I feel really sorry for him. Ouch.
Ugly asshole.
If he’s 35, then I’m 20. And I’m really 43
I love how he’s holding a basketball when he doesn’t seem to be anywhere near a court.
Not that there’s anything wrong with it, but I’m calling ‘sloppy bottom’ here. Just a vibe I get.
I wonder why he singled out just asian? lol
If it’s the small dick thing, then this gross bottom queen should just say that he’s looking for huge cocks.
I submitted this. He’s from Dallas, TX. Dallitude as we call it here. Among other things.
He and his bf live in Orlando!
Well he’s fucking disgusting. I just love when people single out one specific race like they’re above it. *shudder*
you are waitlisted for senior home
Another 45 year old asshole having a mid life crisis. I understand him wanting a younger guy due to his rapidly aging body, but why the hate on Asians and Prudes? Dude if you want huge dick and you want it bareback just fucking say so!
And why are you hating on 45 year olds? I swear, some of the comments on this blog are as douchey as the douches themselves.
What a racist pig! Yikes, when will people get over these backwards racist ideas?
The basketball is supposed to indicate that he is “sporty”, therefore he must be masculine. LOL
All he forgot was the A&F polo with the popped collar and/or pooka shell necklace to indicate that he considers himself a “straight-acting jock”. I can’t imagine how many people who must have looked at his picture and snickered silently to themselves. 35…. yeah and I have a 12″ dick.
He’s ugly inside & out!!!
Martin is on the money!
dude is ugly
having followed this great site for a while now but what saddens me is: Are Asians really so irksome to these people? I said this because I find most of the racist profiles here are directed at Asians and many repeatedly said so on their descriptions. I live in Asia and I must say once or twice I have come across profiles that said “Asian for Asian” or “Asians only”….
I’ll buy that he’s 35; too much partying and playing have really aged him.
Rice- I think its because Asians tend to be relentless and not take a hint. So many of my friends who r uber pc will begrudgingly admit that the most harassing people r asians. If they’ll say that then it makes sense that ur average person will get more proactive to discourage them.
relentless? bitch please. I’ve seen blacks and whites do the same shit.
The point u think all of asians are relents because they are the minorities. Of course you SEE it more apparent. But if you take the percentage of majority ( whites ) – the amount would be the same.
Race has no correlation with this. I bet you suck at math too,.
Tripes I don’t suck at math and you make my point for me. If asians are a minority then I should be getting less as a gross number of them harassing me. The gross number of Asians who do it is even higher than the majority group, whites. Who’s the one the sucks at math here (not to mention logic and grammar)? And the humorless militance of people who cry racism because guys on a hookup site don’t want to fuck them, doesn’t help your case. Drop the hyperbole and ultrasensitivity. You cheapen instances of REAL racism.
And dont put words in my mouth. I didnt say “all asians” and didnt say its was only asians. Im one of those racist, sexist, ageist gay guys that treats and genders races, ages equally except when it comes to sex. Then I turn into a big ole bigot who only likes northern european looking guys. Years ago, when I was first making a profile on a different site I asked my friend, “Should I say I’m only into white guys just to save nonwhites the trouble?” He said, “no. I won’t come up enough to be an issue” well he was mostly right. With blacks, latins, middle eastern, even other white guys if I wasn’t interested they took a hint. There were a few exceptions but the overwhelming majority of harassing, cant-take-a-hint guys were asian. It didn’t “seem” like that. That’s what happened. Now on grndr, I just describe myself and as soon as I see a type I don’t like I block them. In my neighborhood, no asians bother me because they’re all blocked now but as soon as I leave, I get bombarded. So I understand why guys say “no asians”.
Andy, i dont know where you live, but not ALL Asians are socially maladjusted and inept. To assume that they ALL are would in fact be quite racist. What’s wrong with just ignoring their incoming messages?
People (of all ethnicities) are quite socially literate and mellow where I am. I would encourage you to maybe do some travelling and not paint everyone with the same brush…
Derek, I suggest you work on your reading comprehension. I made it clear I didn’t mean ALL asians and I also explained my experience so I made no assumptions. I live in NYC and have traveled the world. I do just ignore the incoming messages but it can be tedious so I understand why people say what races they’re not into. Why would someone want to waste their time pursuing someone not into them? Why not just say “no ____”?
Andy said: “Drop the hyperbole and ultrasensitivity. You cheapen instances of REAL racism.”
Andy, I suppose by this statement, you consider yourself an expert on racism? How would you define and describe racism?
I wouldn’t assume to know everything about racism, so I guess I’ll gather some info from the net…
Definition of racism:
1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.
1. (Sociology) the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. (Sociology) abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism
Based on the definitions given above, it could be possible then some races are rejected because they are seen as inferior to another race? For example, Asians are considered less attractive than Caucasians. Isn’t lack of attractiveness an indication of inferiority? Thus, aren’t Causcasian and Caucasian looks considered more superior then?
How about another definition of racism according to All Together Now, an Australian NGO focusing on racism and racial discrimination in Australia.
And according to them, racism is “a combination of attitudes, beliefs and behaviours, including:”
– believing your race is superior to another race;
– offensive or aggressive behaviour towards somebody because of their race;
– believing some groups do not fit in Australia;
– actively avoiding or excluding people from a specific cultural background because you believe they don’t belong; or
– believing everyone should behave according to certain values which are called ‘national’ but are not.
And racial discrimination is “an extension of racist thoughts or feelings. It is discrimination (i.e. a behaviour or practice) based on a person’s skin colour, cultural heritage or nationality which stops the victim from participating fully in public life. It can take many forms, including exclusion from employment, educational or housing opportunities.”
Again I’m wondering, based upon these definitions can we use and apply them to what we have seen on Grindr and from the discussions/arguments on this site?
As for your comments on Asians – I know you said you made it clear that you didn’t mean ALL Asians but I’m wondering seeing how Asia is a large continent, perhaps we should break it down according to specific ethnicities (I will exclude Central Asia and South Asia because I know to most Westerners, Asians means those yellow or light brown people, right?)
Getting my info from Wikipedia, East Asians and South East Asians Chinese/Koreans/Japanese/Mongolians and Cambodians/Laotians/Burmese/Thai/Vietnamese/Filipino/Malays/Indonesians/Bruneians/East Timorese.
So which of these Asians are the ones who keep harassing the oh-so attractive and undeniably superior gened Caucasians?
Because lumping all Asians into one lump is a tad offensive no? I mean what if it’s the Chinese who are the ones shamelessly texting hot white dudes but the Mongolians aren’t into pasty white dudes at all and yet they get painted by the same ‘yellow skinned slanted eyed bottoms mad crazy for white meat not taking no for an answer’ brush.
I mean you guys probably can’t tell who’s Korean or who’s Cambodian or who’s Thai or who’s Indonesian because all yellow and brown people all look alike anyway right? But somehow I think they would be able to tell each other apart. So, I doubt they appreciate being categorized and discriminated as the same.
Or is it okay to say ‘No Asians’ and to offend and discriminate against several ethnic groups because it’s so tedious having to block or ignore all these unwanted incoming messages?
http://www.alltogethernow.org.au/racism
Azulmelb, thx u just reiterated my point with irrelavant strawman argument. U lept to the assumption that not being attracted a race is saying that race is inferior. What bullshit. By that logic, being a gay man makes u sexist. And sorry to burst ur bubble but despite Asia being so large, the whole continent is pretty well represented here in NYC and their pestering ways. Although if I did a count I think it would be mostly Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Thai in that order. That’s not to say there aren’t Indonesian, Filipinos etc that do it. I just don’t think there are as many here.
And by saying, “And sorry to burst ur bubble but despite Asia being so large, the whole continent is pretty well represented here in NYC and their pestering ways.”
Are you now saying this ‘pestering ways’ is an inherent characteristic to Asians?
Let’s refer back to the definition of racism, shall we?
1. (Sociology) the belief that races have distinctive cultural characteristics determined by hereditary factors and that this endows some races with an intrinsic superiority over others
2. (Sociology) abusive or aggressive behaviour towards members of another race on the basis of such a belief
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/racism
So…erm did you just make a racist remark?
Then what would be your reason(s) for not finding Asians or other non whites not attractive as Caucasians?
Funny…the order of my comments got mixed up BUT I do hope you will answer to the question on what would be your reason(s) for not finding Asians and other non-whites as attractive as Caucasians.
Explain in a way that would prove that you do not think that their ethnicity, physicality or cultural characteristics are not inferior to Caucasians…
And I hope you’ll be basing these reasons with facts and not stereotypical beliefs of these races. Thanks Andy.
Oops a typo there: Explain in a way that would disprove that you do not think that their ethnicity, physicality or cultural characteristics are not inferior to Caucasians…
Its quite as simple and obvious as the attraction to women or lack thereof isn’t indicative of finding women inferior. Who you’re attracted too could even be someone u think of as inferior. Thats actually often the case in straight relationships. You’re asking me to prove a negative which if ur familiar with debate at all, is practically impossible to do. U want me to prove its NOT racist when u haven’t even given me anything about sexual attraction to rebut. All I can say is attraction is a totallydifferent animal from feeling racially superior. Why don’t u explain to me why not being attracted to women isn’t sexist but only being atracted to certain races is racist?
And yeah, i’ll grant u that the “pestering” remark can be read as racist. What i meant was that of the pestering Asians, all countries seem to be represented. So ur claim that I was being too general when I should have specified national origin, isn’t valid. And again, what I’m saying is that of the “pesterers” the vast majority r asian. That’s my experience and u can’t tell me its not. But that’s very different from saying all asians are “pesterers”. Its like saying all milk is white doesn’t mean all white things are milk.
Urm…sorry to burst your bubble but I do find women attractive. So, I guess I won’t have to explain how homosexuality works.
So back to you Andy – what is it about non-whites that makes them not attractive as Caucasians?
I find that most racists or guys with racist tendencies avoid answering this question because I think there aren’t ways to describe their racial preferences in a non racist way.
But if you are able to say that your non sexual attraction to non-whites is not racist in nature, then please do so. Thanks again Andy.
p.s. – please excuse any typos or messed up wordings – I’m somewhat sleep deprived. Been working on my thesis proposal…
Sure, i like lighter skin with a peaches and cream or pinkish tone, i like body hair, i like light eyes and usually lighter hair. Even if the hair is dark i like a little wave in it. I like pink or beige penises that are 6″+. I like the way white guys smell as opposed to other races. I like straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils. … i mean i could do this all day. Ive told all my nonwhite friends this. No one has a problem with it. And ur dancing arounf the women/sexist question. What if grindr was open to all sexualities. Is it sexist to say “no women”?
Thanks for answering, Andy…
“Sure, i like lighter skin with a peaches and cream or pinkish tone” – only Caucasians have light skin? What about fair Middle Easterners and Latinos? What about Afghans specifically from the Pashtun ethnic group?
“i like body hair” – only Caucasians are hairy? Indians are hairy. Middle Easterners, definitely. Asians are probably the least hairiest, most not hairy at all but there are hairy Asians…
“i like light eyes and usually lighter hair. Even if the hair is dark i like a little wave in it” – only Caucasians have light eyes and light/wavy hair? Again I would point out to Middle Easterners like some Lebanese men…
“I like pink or beige penises that are 6″+” – okay Caucasians probably have pink penises than other racial groups but beige penises that 6 inches and more – you can’t say only Caucasians have this. And do you honestly believe ALL Asians have penises less than 6″? Especially when the average size for penises worldwide is around 5″-6″?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_penis_size
http://www.thepenismuseum.com/penis_guide.php
“I like the way white guys smell as opposed to other races” – have you slept with men of other races to make this judgment?
“I like straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils” – Again, only Caucasian men have straight noses with a strong bridge and small nostrils? You have seen some Northern Indians (from Punjab), Afghan (Pasthuns) and Middle Easterners.
And what about mixed race? How would you rate the attractiveness of a half white, half Asian man?
Do you deny that men of other races are possible of possessing these physical traits that you described?
Actually after i wrote “i could do this all day” it just shows how excluding or specifying races that include a long list of characteristics is just pragmatic. Especially for sonething as superficial as a gay hook up site. And btw, i know the trap ur trying to set for me. I have said from the start i dont write a preference in my profile even tho i have one. U want to catch me discriminating for something besides a physical characteristic. Heres an example of me NOT doing that. Ive hooked up with guys listing Middle Eastern as their race. I dont typically go for Middle Eastern guys but Israelis can be blond/blue and those type i find attractive. I also dated someone who was Mexican but had brown hair and green eyes. So its not culture or ethnicity that excludes guys for me but assuming arguendo it was, we still have to let people make choices in sex and romance on any criteria they want.
As for the women and sexist issue – let’s look into the definition sexist/sexism:
sexism
1. Discrimination based on gender, especially discrimination against women.
2. Attitudes, conditions, or behaviors that promote stereotyping of social roles based on gender.
sexist
(noun) sexist – a man with a chauvinistic belief in the inferiority of women
(adj) sexist – discriminatory on the basis of sex (usually said of men’s attitude toward women)
Now, the definition of homosexuality…
homosexual
noun
(Psychology) a person who is sexually attracted to members of the same sex
adj
1. (Psychology) of or relating to homosexuals or homosexuality
2. (Life Sciences & Allied Applications / Biology) of or relating to the same sex
So, sexism is an act of discrimination towards women. A negative attitude or treatment of women. But a homosexual saying no to a woman is about his sexuality – he is not attracted to women.
And the definition of homosexuality is sexual attraction to the same sex. A non-white man is the same sex as a white man, so what is the reason behind the non sexual attraction if it is not based upon gender?
If the reason behind the non sexual attraction to a person of the same sex is solely the person’s race, how is that not racial discrimination?
Ok, i’ve to drop the stuffy debate style for a second. R U FUCKING KIDDING ME!!?? U just answered ur own question in that last comment! Its related to SEXUALITY!!! Where do you draw the line? Is every fit 18 yo expected to give an equal opportunity to every person with a penis? Even if its a 80 yo that weighs 500 lbs? If not why not? Does bigotry in the form of agism or lookism not matter as much as racism? OR IS IT that we dont apply the same standards of bigotry when its regarding sexuality?!?!? How do u not understand this? Do u honestly believe that in order to not be racist u have to be attracted to all races equally as long as theyre the right gender? Please tell me ur under 25. These r the views of someone who thinks theoretically and has little real world rxperince. Is the straight man who asks for an asian masseuse racist? What about the women who only date black men? Im losing patience with this riduculous argument.
I’ve actually replied to the post you made at 5:20pm which points out that the physical characteristics you described could be attributed to men of other races apart from Caucasians. But for some reason it is still awaiting moderation. I have no idea why…
But the point I hope you’ll get that basing physical attraction upon race is what’s ridiculous because men of any race could look like the Caucasian men you desire because there are many exceptions to the rule.
There could be a muscled Japanese guy with a 9″ dick. There could be a hot blonde Lebanese. There could be a fair hairy Punjabi guy.
And yes, I am over 25 and I have been with guys of various races and ethnicities, so I know that hot can come in any shape and shade.
You’re losing patience, my friend because you cannot convince me that racial preference is not racist.
The thing is Andy – this practice of writing No Asians or any other form of discrimination is telling of the society that we’re becoming. People being so self absorbed and insensitive that they don’t care about offending an entire group of people because it’s an inconvenience to be thoughtful and kind.
And rather than trying to understand why such things are offensive, people just criticize and insult each other just to justify their beliefs no matter how wrong it may be. At no point are people willing to compromise and try to empathize with the plight of the other.
I am trying to find out people are like that. I’ve come across one blog and it may shed some light I’m not sure but I’ll be posting it below and I hope you (and others like you) will take the time to read it…
The Blinders of Privilege™
(http://theuniverseandhumanstupidity.wordpress.com/2008/06/17/the-blinders-of-privilege™/)
(I’ve been thinking about this for some time now, and recent events brought it to the forefront. I just had to get it out there, even if I make a fool of myself in the process.
In a way, I find it embarassing that I’m just now learning that I have The Blinders of Privilege™. I mean… I’m 32 years old, for Pete’s Sake. You would think that I would have learned it by now, especially considering that for all of my adult life, I have had a more diverse group of friends than I did growing up. But nope… The Blinders of Privilege™ made sure I didn’t see what was right in front of my face.
Certain groups of people are made to feel more entitled than others, and in such a way that they feel they’ve earned that right. It happens every day, and most of those people involved don’t see that there’s a problem. Sometimes even the ones to whom we feel superior feel that they deserve the treatment they get.
In White Privilege: Unpacking the Invisible Knapsack, Peggy McIntosh describes it like this:
“I have come to see white privilege as an invisible package of unearned assets that I can count on cashing in each day, but about which I was “meant” to remain oblivious. White privilege is like an invisible weightless knapsack of special provisions, maps, passports, codebooks, visas, clothes, tools , and blank checks.”
Now, obviously, Ms. McIntosh is speaking specifically about white privilege. But the fact is, we can take the word “white” out of there and replace it with any of the privileged groups: Rich, Men, Thin, “Normal” – and you end up with exactly the same result.
In her essay, she goes on to list 50 things that are an everyday occurrence to white people that openly shows their privilege. Things you might not even think of. However, in reading those things, I think I caught a glimpse of why I’ve always seen People of Color as being equal to me despite my white upbringing. Short story: I’m obsinate and wouldn’t let racist talk affect the way I thought of People of Color; and my adult life has been spent struggling financially, which, in turn, put me in contact with People of Color more often – and I learned a lot from them.
But there are some things on that list that I never even thought of, and surprised me.
– I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
– I can go shopping alone most of the time, pretty well assured that I will not be followed or harassed.
– I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
– When I am told about our national heritage or about “civilization,” I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
– I can be sure that my children will be given curricular materials that testify to the existence of their race.
– I can be pretty sure that my children’s teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others’ attitudes toward their race.
Those are just a few. But they illustrate my point: because I am white, I don’t have to think about these things. However, when they are pointed out to me, I can honestly understand why People of Color get so upset about this privilege we have. Because while I was too blinded to see it before, it’s right there in front of my face. But The Blinders of Privilege™ made it impossible for me to see before.
And learning more about my unearned White Privilege has made it so much clearer now as to why People of Color involved in the Fatosphere have said time and again “there is no real place for us.” Until we – as a society – learn to put away the White Privilege completely, there will always be an “us” and a “them.” It really saddens me to admit that, but it’s true.
I can only hope that I, under the power of The Blinders of Privilege™, haven’t made any person of Color feel unwanted. I don’t think I have, but I didn’t think I had any Privilege, either.
At least I’m learning.
Oh. My. God. Thx for reinforcing the
‘Asians just dont get it’ stereotype and filling the comments with pseudo intellectual strawman arguments. If races don’t have defining physical characteristics then what is the basis of these vapid queens disinterest OR why the exclusive interest in a race other than their own? Do u think the no asians thing is a throwback to WWI anti-Japanese sentiment or something? Give me a break. They arent into the way they look. Pure and simple. And yes there are some exceptions to the way certain races look but Im sure an a hookup site guys are willing to risk overlooking some western looking asians if it means geyting the pestering ones off their back. And dont make this about white priviledge, PLENTY of guys aren’t into whites and ive seen plenty of “asian only”. You need to familiarize urself with strawman arguments because thats all uv given me.
And fyi, this isnt crucial to my argument but just because u have the audacity to insinuate I’m a product of white priveledge. I LIVE IN FUCKING NEW YORK CITY! It doesnt get more racially diverse. I worked for a Japanese company for 3 years wherei was the minority. I made a lot of good asian friends but also was ostracized and had to prove myself more than the asians (and just to be clear, I was singled out for being white not because I wasn’t japanese, non japanese asians didn’t have the issues that me and my latin coworker had). I also worked with a predominately black company and traveled with them. I would be the only white face among hunfreds of blacks staying in black parts of town. I was known as “that gay white boy” by many who couldn’t be bothered to learn my name. In fact I’ve lived in Harlem and Chinatown breifly. I don’t come from any financial priveledge. I applied for a minority scholarship at a black school because I couldn’t afford college. I’m still paying off student loans. So don’t sit in ur throne of judgement from Australia and act like u have ANY idea what my experience is.
Dude, what’s with the attitude?
Consistently, you have responded defensively, emotionally, sarcastically and with some dose of racial stereotyping. Are you a fan of Bill O’Reilly cuz you sure argue like him – you don’t listen to the argument or comments given, you attack without understanding and you respond with derision. Is that how you usually debate or try to resolve a conflict?
I’ve look at your other comments on the other posts – it seems you are very disrespectful, hateful and probably emotionally unstable person.
I’m not sure I would want to engage with someone who obviously does not care about the feelings of others. Your persistent denial of the harmful effects of people saying, ‘No Asians’ screams out that you lack EMPATHY.
You may think it’s trivial and harmless but it’s not – gay people lack space to feel free to be themselves and to feel accepted in a hetero world so spaces such as Grindr or other online sites can be a good addition to the small spaces for all queers.
But consider how it feels being a gay Asian or other minorities (overweight, old, trans, etc) and continually getting the message that they don’t belong in this space. Is this a healthy environment for your fellow queers?
No here is saying people can’t have their preference – you can say no without offending people. You can be racist or ageist or whatever but if people call you out on it – man up and ‘Yeah I am a racist’. Don’t bullshit us by saying otherwise. A bigot is a bigot.
Don’t keep bringing up the straw man argument because if anyone is doing it, it’s you. I have given you examples, I’ve given you definitions, I’ve responded to your questions and I’ve even given you direct links to those information.
You ARE the one who’s keep dismissing my arguments, not listening to the examples and definitions and not reading what I have posted here.
You’re making it clear that you do not wish nor care to understand nor empathize with the issue at hand.
Just because you haven’t heard of these terms or issues doesn’t mean they don’t exist – it just means you’re ignorant and uneducated. And it appears that you wish to remain so.
That is what the blinders of privilege is about – ignoring and denying the plight of marginalized people. If you have read that blog article, you would have understood that before ranting about your associations with people of color, not being privileged, blah blah blah.
I know NYC is racially and culturally diverse, I was there in the spring, stayed in Williamsburg, got on the L everyday – which makes it sadder that you’re such an insensitive and ignorant prick because you should know better.
Earlier you commented about knowing REAL racism but you just said that to dismiss the valid complaints people have posted here. You just keep trying to maintain the status quo and drown out other people’s voices with your incessant insults and bitching.
If you want to know more about racism, check out these links:
http://www.alltogethernow.org.au/racism
http://www.vichealth.vic.gov.au/en/Publications/Freedom-from-discrimination/Building-on-our-strengths.aspx
If you bother to check those links you’ll find the different definitions and types of discrimination and then try applying to the attitude and actions of the people on Grindr and this site.
In fact, I’ll list some out now…
Discrimination:
Behaviours or practices that result in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Direct discrimination:
Unequal treatment that results in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Indirect discrimination:
Equal treatment that results in unequal power, resources or opportunities across different groups
Interpersonal discrimination:
Interactions between people that result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across different groups
Systemic discrimination:
Also called institutional, organisational, societal or cultural discrimination. This occurs when requirements, conditions, practices, policies or processes result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across different groups
Internalised discrimination:
When an individual accepts attitudes, beliefs or ideologies about the superiority of other groups and/or the inferiority of their own group
Race-based discrimination:
Behaviours and practices that result in avoidable and unfair inequalities across groups in society based on race, ethnicity, culture or religion
That’s just a bit of the information given, so read up bitch.
Ooh I should add this – in VicHealth’s framework of reducing race-based discrimination, they listed out the key factors contributing to race-based discrimination on four levels – individual, organisational, community and societal.
Under individual, the factors listed are:
• Belief in racial hierarchy and racial separatism
• Belief that some groups do not fit into Australian society
• Fear, anxiety, discomfort, avoidance or intolerance of
diversity
• Denial that discrimination occurs and/or that it is serious
• Negative stereotypes and prejudices
• Failure to recognise own negative attitudes/behaviours and/or a belief that they are ‘normal’
• Poor conflict resolution skills
• Limited positive inter-group relationships and interaction
http://www.vichealth.vic.gov.au/~/media/ResourceCentre/PublicationsandResources/Discrimination/Building_on_our_strengths-framework.ashx
Seems like you tick all the boxes, Andy?
So if you don’t state a negative preference or a positive preference regarding race, but evaluate every guy based on whether you’re attracted to him or not, and just don’t end up being attracted to anyone who doesn’t look stereotypically white? Are you racist?
I’m bi and not out but I don’t cheat on partners or have unprotected anal ever so I don’t think I have to tell anyone. I’m very attracted to all races of women (I’m white) but as far as I know I’m really only into other white guys. I have gone on a few dates with Asian guys but I just wasn’t attracted enough to want to fuck them…
So am I racist, according to your obviously superior racism detection skills?
I met them in Orlando. His bf is Asian! They are a riot!
The “no Asians” demand is offensive and involved. It’s 2012 and pl still write such things? I recall the terribly offensive words I would see in newspaper ads for lesbians in the 80s & 90s.. “no bisexuals”. To a gay woman this seems reasonable, they don’t want to get hurt by someone they feel is indecisive about their orientation. They don’t wish to be left for a guy or hurt in the future, never mind the average lesbian relation is dead in 1-3 yes anyway. It seemed reasonable at that time, however, later when identifying myself as bisexual because I had to admit what I was, those Words “no bi’s” became THE MOST dismissive and ignorant words I’d ever read. So basically, it depends where you sit to see the bite such words can bring. These blinded ppl assumed their soulmate had to be just like them, gay…therefore quite possibly and probably they did miss out on the most passionate, memorable experience of their lives, out of fear. In the end, that’s what it all boils down to. Fear. A lot of people are simply stupid. I vividly recall women backing away from me because I looked “bisexual” or “straight” so that meant I’d hurt them. I befriended a woman once with openness and joy only to have the door slammed in my face. I asked for her number and she actually said out loud “are you kidding, no way, youse break my heart”. I remember feeling so hurt by such stupidities.
Yes, bi people should only be with other bi people, etc. When I realized that, as a bi man, I “dated” gay dudes only because they were available, not because I desired them, I truly came into my own, and found peace and true pleasure in my life. I came out as bi, dating only certain bi people who meet certaing sexuality, height, weight, interests, etc., criteria, and I haven’t looked back since. Please don’t waste your life on gay men. They, as a group, aren’t worth it.
My white bf would laugh his ass off if I ask him to see these discussions lol
I’m my area the Asians are prudes.
Closet cases, gay and planning on finding a wife and having a family.
And they repeat “R u kleeen?’ Again and again. Like my answers going to change?
And they’re bad for fake profiles too.
They want complete discretion but keep up with stolen photo profiles with same shitty English and the same probing questions.
They fuck me off. And I’m fucked off that I even say “They”.
Keep on working, great job!
Look at my site :: review perfect guide, Johnnie,
He’s not a douche.
He’s out of your league.
Asian guys, as a group, must be really horrible on these apps, as they keep getting rejected by so many people. It can’t just be racism, which reminds me, since when do you white queens give a damn about people of color. When we’re mistreated in the real world, you’re nowhere to be found, except as the person guilty of the discrimination…